Disturbing Side Effects
|Side-effects in the pre-stage of OBE
Sounds as a side-effect of Kundalini arousal or vibrational states.
"I felt a great pressure on my chest and someone's breathing, and at first I thought that was my dog, but I couldn't see anything because my eyes were closed."
That was your own breath, what you heard.
Because this is very typical for OBEs this is brought in special articles like those dealing with OBE pre-states, hypnagogic states, Kundalini.
Accumulation of Saliva
Saliva production never was a problem at all to me, except the fact to prevent swallowing while being out of the body, because then often I was swallowing physically, interrupting thus the out of body state.
Preventive measure: to let the head hang down, to open the mouth and for the rest to ignore it.
Thus i have to cut my practice short, just not to start throwing up. I'm not sure why its happening. I tried raising my head up higher, thinking that maybe the low pillow gets the blood rushed to my head, but not, its the same thing."
As I suppose you are too good in relaxing or as to say
it more accurate:
Response: "I think you are right. I have always had a very low blood pressure, in fact doctors woudn't let me donate blood when I was in high school, because they though I was anemic, that is how low my blood pressure was. I managed to raise it after starting to eat good food and doing physical activity, but I guess its still quite low."
However, since then every time that I try to produce the vibration, or feelings of floating, I get a slight burning sensation in the stomach, and the deeper I go the greater this sensation becomes, it's blocking my way to success!
Sometimes itching especially in the face is reported. I had this as well very often for a longer period. For a part this itching comes because once you have had it once and your subconscious produces this again as a result of expectation. I do not know any trick to prevent this bothering hindrance, except ignoring (though itching may become nearly painful).
To sense itching is a typical symptom for deep relaxation, it is one of the last borders to OBE. I do not know something to counteract except to endure it, though it may become nearly painful. It then ceases nearly immediately and you are in a deeper state. Otherwise if you move by scratching you then have fallen out of relaxation and you do not get a second chance.
The origin of this kind of itching seems to be a body reaction on stimulus deprivation. Additional there seems to be a learning effect, causing the same kind of "OBE disturbance" at the same body location at next occasions.
Here you have an Taoist attempting his meditation for creating a body of light (OBE) bothered by demons (irritations)
Sometimes very fast heartbeat is reported. I never have observed this myself, thus I have no experience at this field. I think the fast heartbeat has an emotional background and will cease, if you become customary.
"I have seen your site, and I have a question. You see, I have been trying to have an OOBE, and in the second day of trying, (which was only yesterday) I closed my eyes, went into a trance, and started thinking about my spirit leaving my body. Well, my legs were feeling weird, and then I started shaking uncontrollably. My heart rate went faster, and I was breathing heavily. I started getting scared, but at the same time it felt good... Then it stopped. I really would like to know what I should do when this starts happening, I dont know where to go from there."
I do not know what to do in this case. I suppose it is a hindrance originating in the subconscious. I am convinced that it will cease at one of the next attempts.
In most of the reports the experiences of fast heartbeat have not been in a pre-OBE state or in OBE but have been observed while being aware of sleep paralysis. Being not conform with this state these persons were very scared and had fast heart beat as a stress response.
This is a side-effect of a trance state. I do not know the reason why this happens. I have not experienced this by myself, but I have seen this and received several e-mails mentioning that problem.
....The eye flicker is a typical trance symptom and thus a very good sign. I recommend you not to interfere in this state and not to force any desired goal. Let it develop by itself - may be you enter a state much better than any OBE (don't ask me which state, but be patient and do not interfere).
|Side-effects in the IBE and OBE state
Opening the physical eyes instead those of the subtle
OBE Letter 388 I also have trouble with my sight and speech. I worry that I might wake myself up at times!!
Yes, this is a well known fact. I had my problems with swallowing (I had saliva production in the physical, as I thought - in reality it was ektoplasm). While OBEing I went with a full mouth of saliva in my subtle and when I tried to swallow, my physical swallowed instead. (I experienced this about 10 to 20 times). It very often happens that you give the order unwillingly to the physical instead to the subtle, because the feelings are so identically the body orders may be mixed.
Problems of the same origin: OBE letter 415
A hint how to prevent opening the physical eyes:
OBE Letter 490 "......And now impressions: I clearly saw the surroundings, but not with my physical sight (my eyes were closed). I had a second sight. Trying to identify this "second sight" I created this little experiment: close your eyes, and look at the blackness in front of you. Focus your attention on an imaginary spot exactly in front of you, no matter how distant. It's like the "escape point" in central perspective. Then turn your eyeballs upwards (or downwards, or in whatever direction you prefer) but keep your focus on the spot in front of you. Your "first attention" (the one tied to physical sight) will move along with the pupils, but your "second attention" (tied only to your will) will remain focused on the spot in front of you. With practice, this will help you identify and control your "second sight". ....."
Seeing nothing but blackness
Seeing nothing but blackness very often is experienced in OBEing while in a near body distance.
(OBE Letter 437)
OBE Letter 436 My question is when I get the vibrations and feel myself lifting out of my body - once I'm out, I feel very heavy, like I can't move and I usually end up just feeling like I'm floating toward the ground and end up on the floor and then I feel too heavy to move my "body".
Your subtle body is linked with your physical, that's principally. For that reason always an information exchange between subtle and physical body takes place. That's a very important fact of safety, because if your physical body has problems the subtle body will return immediately, reflectively.
And now to your problem: Because of the just explained fact of information transfer, the status of relaxation of your physical body is brought to your subtle. A typical symptom of deep relaxation is feeling very heavy. (You certainly know that feeling very heavy is an often used suggestion when using induction methods, hypnosis and autohypnosis.)
Well, your subtle body receives this message of heaviness. Because of fail-interpretation you project and identify this feeling with your subtle body and now you let behave the subtle body as if it was heavy.
OBE Letter 446 ".... What do I experience? Well, I close my eyes, I see the ceiling through my eyelids, and fell 'in the oobe state'. I feel VERY heavy, and it is very hard for me to move... as if no gravity, but heavy. I usually lift my arm in front of my face, but I do not see it (I certainly feel it in front of me). I do not panic by these episodes at all. I actually try to investigate a little further, and try to move around, but this is impossible. Getting up from the bed is incredibly hard, because of how heavy I feel.Every movement is sloooooow, and almost against a force. Very strange, and frustrating. I want to go and move around......"
One very often has this feeling in the late morning in the short awake phases while still lying in bed. It is the same feeling as you try to produce by will in hypnosis or autohypnosis. As I suppose it is a kind of semi-sleep-paralysis.