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Re: Jesus = Lucifer
Sothis schrieb am 18. Mai 2003 um 12:06 Uhr (559x gelesen):

> Hi,
> ich war jetzt zu faul, das zu übersetzen.

> aus dem www.

> In studies and research I have come across many interesting things, but the most controversial is who is Chist! According to definition Christ/o means the same thing as Messiah, and that means anointed one! Yet more interesting is that for anyone to take office, or preisthood they had to be anointed, and take on the office of Christ! Then Josoe translated as Joshua, the son of Moses means the same thing as Jeshua, which is interpreted as Jesus. If that being true them that means for Josue/Josoe/Joshua to lead the Isrealites out of the wilderness he had to be anointed, there by making him also Jesus Christ!

> Yet if that's not interesting enough then Lucifer is translated as Venus, also Known as the daystar. It is comonly held that Lucifer was the first angel, and that he fell from grace. Yet as I continued in studies I found a Biblical passages through references, and notations, although the only one I have found the clear connection to is the Authorized King James Version. If you look in Malachi 4:2 you will see "But unto you that fear my name shall the Sun of righteousness arise with healing in his wings: and ye shall go forth and grow up as calves of the stall." This verse references chapter 3:16, Luke 1:78, and Rev. 2:28. Luke 1:78 reads "Through the tender mercy of our God; whereby the dayspring from on high hath visited us," The notes on dayspring are, sunrising, or branch. The scientific definition of branch is a point in a line that goes infinately in either direction! Revelation 2:28 reads "And I will give him the morning star." This verse references II Peter 1:19 which reads "We also have a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well to take heed, as a light that shinneth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the daystar arise in your hearts:"

> Ok so we have that the Sun of righteousness is also the dayspring, the morning star, and the daystar, but who is he? well from II peter 1:19 it references Rev. 22:16 which reads "I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root of David, and the bright and morningstar. Well ther you have it, its Jesus, not his angel because Jesus is the morningstar. Follow me so far, well heres the twist! Read Isaiah 14:12 it says "How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!" O Lucifer is noted as, or O Daystar!

> Well ther you have it, if you were to stand up in any church and tell them that Jesus and Lucifer are the same person, they surely would ask you to leave! If any one can clear this matter, or add any light on it I'd be gratefull!



Hallo!

Recht interessant der text! Wo hast du ihn her?

aber woran ich mal so nenbei beim durchlesen mit gedacht hab: heißt es nicht Lucifer ist gefallen? er wäre auf die Erde gekommen, aber er war nie da! Und in dem Sinne ist Lucifer auch Gottes Sohn da er der erste Engel war! Und jEsus kam auf die Erde, als wär er nen gefallner Engel .. na okay, is alles interpretationsfrage!
Aber Lucifer heißt ja überstezt auch "Lichtträger" ...

Wäre über ne Quellenangabe trotzdem erfreut ;)

Die Sothis

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