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Ein Interview mit S.H dem Dalai Lama über Mißbrach

Dechen schrieb am 31. Oktober 2004 um 19:32 Uhr (509x gelesen):

Hallo

Ich finde es sehr gut daß Du dieses Tabu Thema ansprichst.
Generell ist meine Meinung dazu, daß beide Partein nicht unschuldig sind, wobei die größte Verantwortung bei dem spirituellen lehrer liegt.

Des weiteren meine ich, daß mißbrach in spirituellen kreisen, was die Opfer anbelangt, vorallem auf unwissenheit und Naivität zurückzuführen ist. Das liegt auch sicherlich daran daß mißbrach noch immer ein tabuthema ist.
Entweder man schämt sich oder man fühlt sich als etwas besonderes "die Auserwählte zu sein" durch irgenwelche komischen und falschen Vorstellungen,
Was buddhistische Kreise anbelangt, so führt oft ein falsches Verständnis über Tantra , dakini, yogi in solche situationen. Gewisse frauen die ein schwaches Selbstbewußtsein haben, wollen endlich mal was besonderes sein, ...und da kommt ein nicht authentischer Lama oder Gelehrter ( Geshe, khenpho)vorbei und sagt, "oh Du bist eine dakini, komm versuchen wir es doch einmal miteinander, es macht auch nichts daß ich Mönch bin, bin ja im geheimen ein yogi"...und schon ist der Mißbrach da.
Leider sind auch auf dem Büchermarkt viel irreführende Literatur im Umlauf die flasche Vorstellungen schüren und so manche "möchte gern spirituelle Lehrer" nützen auch dies für ihre eigenen Zwecke aus....

Spirituelle Zentren, egal welcher Richtung, sollten endlich die aufgabe übernehmen, darüber aufzuklären wie man einen charlatan von einem authentischen lehrer unterscheidet, und was ein spiritueller Lehrer auf gar keinen fall mit seinen schülern machen darf, und an welchen merkmalen man einen authentischen lehrer erkennt.
Des weiteren sollten den menschen die angst genommen werden darüber zu reden,wenn sie mißbracht wurden. Tabus, Schamgefühle und das Fehlen von Informationen schüren die angst jedoch.....


Ich habe auf hier Interview des Dalai Lamas mit westlichen Psychologen bezüglich des themas sexuellen Mißbrach durch spirituelle lehrer im Buddhismus .
Ist bestimmt interessant für jene unter euch die enger mit dem buddhismus zu tun haben oder das beabsichtigen.
Ich habs leider nur auf Englisch.

Viel spaß beim Lesen
Dechen


Question:The student teacher relationship brings both teacher and student in a very close, intimate relationship similar to a therapist and patient relationship
There is the great risk of misusing the power, and it often happens that the helper has abused his or her position or power.
In western psychotherapeutic training, one is taught how to anticipate these situations and deal with them in order not to fall into great danger and there are major professions that most therapist belong to which are regulated by stare licensing or certification boards that observe professional conduct.
Substantiated, ethical misconduct can lead to the therapist losing their license to practice their profession.
Is there anything equivalent to this oversight function in Buddhism?
How is that handeled with Buddhist teachers?
How is it handled in their training?
If it comes to public attention that some teacher is having difficulties in this area, how is that then handled in the sangha?

( H.H.Dalai Lama )
Part of the blame lies with the students, because they pamper the spiritual teachers; they spoil them.

In the Buddhist tradition, someone becomes a spiritual teacher in relation to a disciple.
There isn`t any pariticular license or piece of paper or degree that you give someone qualifying that person as a spiritual teacher.
You are a Lama because you have students.

In cultivating a relationship with a spiritual teacher it is important not to be too quick to consider that person to be your spiritual teacher, because it is a very powerful relationship.
For however long it may take- 2 years, 5 years, 10 years or longer – you simply regard this other person as a spiritual friend, and, in the meantime, you observe closely that person`s behavior, attitudes, and ways of teaching, until you are very confident of his or her integrity.
Then there is no need for any license.
But it is very important, from the beginning on, to have a very firm, sound approach.

There isn`t any aspect of the training towards becoming a lama that is specifically designed to help you avoid abusing your own students, if you ever have students.
But the very nature of Buddhist practice is to cultivate compassion, a sense of altruism towards others, and if this is pure, then the teacher will not abuse his influence.

Question:That`s a very big IF, if one is pure enough.
I think people enter into these relationships on the assumption that the teacher has some degree of enlightenment; and then, when the abuse takes place or similar mistakes are made, the dissillusionment is quite strong.

( by H.H. Dalai Lama )
i normally recommend to buddhist practitioners not to see every action of their spiritual teacher as divine and noble.
In all of the Buddhist teachings there are specific, very demanding qualities that are required of a spiritual mentor.

If one has a teacher who is engaging in unsuitable or wrong behaviour, it is approptiate for the students to criticize that behavior.
It says very explicitly in the sutras, in the Buddha`s own teachings, that in those aspects where the teacher`s behavior is wholesome, you should follow in that teacher`s footsteps, but where it is unwholesome, you should not.

So when it is incompatible with the wholesome, when it is incompatible with the Buddhist teachings, then you don
`t follow in the guru`s footsteps.
You don`t simply say:
„ It is good behavior because it is the guru`s“
this is never done.
It states explicitly in the sutras that if the guru`s behavior is improper, you should identify that you should recognize the unwholesome as being unwholesome, so one might infer that it is worthwhile to criticize it.
In one text of The Highest Yoga Tantra, it expicitly mentions that any advise that your teacher gives you that is unsuitable to your Buddhist way of life, your practice, should not be followed.

Question:But everything you`ve said puts the responsibilty on the student, not one the one who is presumambly more enlightened

( H.H. Dalai Lama )
The guru, the spiritual teacher, is responsible for his or her own improper behavior.
It is the studen`s responsibility not to be drawn into it.
The blame is on both.
Partly it is because the student is too obedient and devoted to the spiritual master, a kind of blind acceptance of that person`s guidance.
That always spoils the person.
But of course part of the blame lies on the spiritual master, because he lacks the integrity that is necessary to be immune to that kind of vulnerability.


Question:In the relationship of students and teachers where the teacher is abusing the student, dominating the student in an improper way because of the teacher`s greater training, presumably greater wisdom, greater position of power, if this happens isn`t it really the teacher who is gulity, rather than saying it`s the student`s fault because they were faithful too quickly?
Do you feel that the responsibility really lies chiefly with the student?

(H.H Dalai Lama )
No, in that case, the responsibility does lie chiefly with the teacher.
When the person is supposed to be offering Dharma, offering spiritual teaching, ahe himself indulges in an action that he has been preaching to others to avoid, then it`s disgraceful.
One can say that person has betrayed the task.

Question:Some teachings seem to indicate that if you can`t be abused and still stay compassionate, you`ll never be a buddha.
There are stories of a monc walking down a road and robbers come upon him and saw off his arm, and, as he reaches the first bhumi, he sends mercy and compassion to his abusers.
Then they saw off one of his legs and he reaches the secound bhumi and sends loving kindness to them, and they take off his other arm, as his realization deepens, his heart wide open, his mind perfectly cleare.
These kind of texts often leave one with a feeling of inadequacy and profound discouragement.
These can very easily be misinterpreted to mean: „ If I cannot allow myself to be abused, I am not a good buddhist.“

H.H. Dali Lama
If this means that a spiritual teacher teaches you in a way that shows his cunningness and shrewdness because he is preparing a way to abuse you.......then I think you should keep away from such teachers.

by Lama Shenphen Rinpoche
Tantra is mainly based on very precise visualizations which the practitioner should hold firmly and identify with. Those techniques require to have mastered Shine, the Mental Quietness, and should be grounded on Bodhicitta motivation, the Ultimate Compassion. As well, a correct and firm understanding of Emptiness is needed. So, we can see that not all people pretending to practice Tantra are really Yogis! Also, we can hear a lot about sexual practices within the Vajrayana, but mainly in the West!
Because Tantrayana is not about sexual practice at all! It is about union of Method and Wisdom, symbolized by a male and a female deity sitting together. It would be deeply mistaken to consider that the core of the Tantric practice is based on sexual activity! Indeed, there are some techniques involving the physical aspect of ones practitioner, but it is related with high level Yogis, having Realized Emptiness and Bodhicitta, and with consort possessing the same level of Realization.
We shall remember that one of the greatest Master of Tantra, Lama Tsong-Kha-Pa (who wrote Himself about 18 huge volumes, among which only 3 or 4 were about Sutras, and whose Tantric treatises are the basis for the practices in the four school of Tibetan Buddhism nowadays) was a monk, and remained monk till his death! Wasn't He a great Yogi? Surely He was; yet, he kept his pure morale conduct all his life.

So to say, to remain in the topic of Ethic, if a so-called practitioner of Dharma would enter in any sexual behavior with you, especially if that person is ordained, than it would be a serious misdeed! The great Masters have very controlled mind, remaining in special equipoise state, and do not need any pleasure of the senses. No Geshe, Lama, Tulku, Rinpoche or whoever shall use his title or position to force or mislead anyone into sexual activities based on "I-don't-know-what" Tantric practice… May this to happen, you have the right to speak out about it, and to report this behavior to higher instances in Buddhism or even to the Ministry for Religious Affairs of the Tibetan Government.
But we shall not fall in the big mistake of false accusation in order to draw attention or to take revenge against anyone. And we shall not just believe the first rumor coming to our ears, which could also be generated for malignant purpose! At the same time, to let misconduct to develop is the source of quick degeneration of Dharma. And in that last point, disciples have also their responsibility to take.

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