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Energiekörper, Etherischer Körper, Projectable double usw
tom schrieb am 14. Oktober 2003 um 14:06 Uhr (914x gelesen):

Das Hab ich von einer amerikanischen Seite (Astralpulse.com) kopiert, Ein Post von Robert Bruce. Quasi als statement zu der Natur der Obe's usw. Nicht das ich jetzt meine, das es stimmt, sondern einfach mal zum lesen. Immerhin ist Bruce sehr bekannt......

Your Fundamental Energy Body

Your fundamental energy body is closely related to your physical body, the part that resides within you during your lifetime. This is intimately involved with all biological life processes, plus all subtle energy processes, including OBE and psychic abilities. The fundamental energy body can be thought of as the part of you that links your physical aspect with all your nonphysical aspects. This is what you have been manipulating with
the body awareness techniques you began practicing last week.



The fundamental energy body cannot leave the confines of the physical body, with the possible exception being a NDE (near-death experience), which would account for the stunning power and clarity of NDE.



The fundamental energy body has various aspects. As said, there is an aspect associated with biological functioning and bodily intelligence. There is also an aspect made up of at least several primary energy centers (also called major chakras), three main energy storage centers, plus hundreds of secondary energy centers (small chakras) and dense patches of energy exchange ports. Additionally, there is also an aspect that internally generates subtle bodies (the aspect responsible for projection).



The very first subtle body generated is always internal. This can be called 'the etheric body'. This is the subtle body into which your thinking consciousness first transfers when you fall asleep, or when you enter the trance state.



The trance state is where your physical body falls asleep while your mind stays awake. This is heralded by a warm, heavy and blissful wave, which happens for just a few moments before you fall asleep. If you hold your hands up, forearms vertical with elbows on the bed, while falling asleep, you will experience the trance state for a little longer than usual. This internal projection of consciousness into the etheric body (the trance state) is the first step of the staggered OBE projection process.



All aspects of your energy body are enmeshed within your physical body. These are never projected during an OBE. They are best thought of as the parts that keep you alive, generates all subtle bodies, anchors these to your physical body, and supports them while they are out of your body.



Your Etheric Body:



The etheric body is first generated when the trance state is achieved. This is much like the projected double, but it cannot fully separate from the physical body. It can, however, develop various astral abilities and some freedom of movement within the physical body, in the full trance state and especially in the pre-OBE exit state. At these times it shares some of the properties of the fundamental energy body and some of the astral double. It can also be said to be part physical body and part spirit body, a kind of
ectoplasmic in-between state of existence.



To speculate, when the complete etheric body is internally generated, not only consciousness is transferred into it but also the mind/spirit/soul/ essence. The mind can be awake or asleep, but the spirit/soul essence is always conscious at some level during sleeping, dreaming and OBE. This makes a lot of sense, as there must be a natural basis for these internal transfers of consciousness. It is only in this state that out of body
projection becomes possible. But a study of the Mind Split effect suggests that the whole mind/spirit/soul unity is not projected outside the physical body; only a copy is projected. Logic suggests that this is a natural phenomenon, designed to protect the physical body and its mind/spirit/soul unit during OBE. In a way, it could be said that the mind/spirit/soul occupies and guards its earthly vehicle at all times.



The etheric body is most likely responsible for the phenomena of astral sight and hearing, because the etheric body can stay conscious while an OBE is in progress. It can hear and see into the real time zone, and even into the higher levels of the astral at times. It has limited movement inside the physical body, and with practice one can even turn around and face the other way, e.g., moving around inside one's own skin.



These astral perceptions and movement abilities can be functional during an OBE, where a projector is conscious of operating out of body as well as being conscious inside his/her paralyzed physical/etheric body. This duality of consciousness involves a full Mind Split effect. But it is rare for a projector to experience the full mind split effect directly, e.g., for his/her conscious internal aspect to interact directly with his/her own projected aspect during an OBE.



However, memories of duality, of existing in two places simultaneously during an OBE, are common if you examine case histories. For example, projectors remember being at remote locations, but while also being aware of real life events and sounds near their physical bodies. Memories of flicking back and forth between the projected double and the physical body are also commonly experienced.



The etheric body and/or its projectable double are probably also involved in the common experience where people feel only a part of their astral body floating out of their physical bodies. For example, they might feel their legs or arms or heads-and-shoulders floating free, but with no full projection occurring. This can also be considered to be a partial projection, where only a part of the projectable double is generated.



Your Projectable Double:



During the OBE exit process, the fundamental energy body combines with its etheric body to produce an internal projectable double. When the projectable double is produced, another internal shift of consciousness occurs, from the etheric body to the projectable double. But this shift generally goes unnoticed.



When the OBE exit reflex is triggered, a projector feels him/herself shifting out of body. This is usually a quite noticeable and visceral sensation. Once projected, the projectable double is then called the astral double, e.g., these are one and the same. This makes sense if you look at the whole projection process, which is a staggered affair, e.g., from physical body to etheric body, then from projectable double to projected double, and so on.



Your Real-time Astral Body



Next in line there is your "real-time" astral double. This is the vehicle of consciousness that is projected into the real-time zone (the part of the astral dimension that looks like normal waking reality). Some people call the "real-time" projectable double the "etheric body" and say this can be projected out of body. But we prefer to call this the real-time astral body, with its natural environment being the real-time astral zone, because these terms are more descriptive. Popular Eastern terminology does not do these aspects justice, so we clarified with clearer Western terms. RB.

Über Seele, Gott, Vertsand usw:

Your highest spiritual vehicle, your immortal spiritual consciousness (your higher self) is divine in nature. This is often called the divine spark, or the Holy Guardian Angel, or the 'overself' or 'oversoul'. This spiritual aspect exists deep inside your physical body, superimposed throughout you at a higher dimensional level.

Your higher self is a part of THE ONE, so close to THE ONE that it could also be called God. I say this because it is difficult to divide a whole from its parts, or a spark from its fire, or a drop of seawater from the ocean. The only differences are size and volume.

The closest part of your mind relating to your higher self is your subconscious mind. Your higher self and subconscious mind are very similar, in that they do not think or communicate in language. They are highly abstract and communicate in images and feelings and impressions. They have no sense of time passing and only exist in the 'now'. During waking consciousness all aspects are fully integrated and the subconscious mind and higher self are invisible but indivisible aspects of the whole that is you.

However, the above aspects, though invisible, still exert a strong influence over you, through conscience and intuition and 'gut' feelings, etc. In some people, this influence can extend to psychic impressions and guidance, and the actions of the higher self are often taken as the actions of one's spirit guide.

As said, I think the subconscious mind and the higher self are so closely related that during mortal life they are indivisible. But the subconscious mind is the most reachable, identifiable and understandable aspect of one's higher self.

Going back a bit, let me explain how I came to some of these conclusions.

I became conscious in my mother's womb, a couple of months before birth I think; although I cannot put an actual time to this for obvious reasons. I have vivid memories of existing in the womb, and of babyhood, prams and bottles and learning to walk, etc. These memories are images, of sights and sounds (including voices), smells and tastes and textures, and feelings and impressions, etc. I remember that I was highly empathic, as all babies are, and could clearly sense the 'mood' of everyone around me.

One thing I remember clearly from my womb time was an audible vibration that permeated me. This was a continual hum that sounded like a deep and gentle 'Aummmmmmmmm' in the background. I also remember a sense of ineffable boredom, and a profound emptiness.

My state of mind before I learned language was very profound and logical. I lived in the 'now' and thought in images and feelings. I felt an incredibly ancient and profound bigness about my mind. I definitely was not a mindless baby. I had profound intellect and strong logical processes, albeit with no experience memories or knowledge or language with which to back them up or apply them to myself or my environment.

Shooting forwards to now, the only time now that I experience the state of mind I had as a baby is during the deep trance state. At such times, normal thought processes slow, time ceases to be sensed, and a profound state of mind arises. This state of mind does not think in language, but like my original child mind state, thinks in images and impressions and has a profound 'hugeness'. Psychic abilities are the norm in this state, because these are natural spirit abilities. And in this state, one is more spirit than human being, more divine than mortal.

And at special moments during deep trance, and also at times when I raise kundalini, the deep 'Aummmm' sound reappears; its quite audible, especially during K sessions.

Now, what happens during life. Well, during your early life you are first afflicted with language. I say 'afflicted' because language and immersion in the continual activity of life drowns out the quiet, voiceless higher self. This distances your higher self from your current new self. Your higher self stays in the background watching everything, just as your subconscious mind records every moment of your life. Your new mortal self grows and lives its life and quickly develops a strong sense of individuality. Normally, it knows nothing but the life it is living now, and has little or no contact with its own spiritual higher self.

Now, through the act of living your life, your personality (a part of what you are) is created over a lifetime. This is so strong and 'real' and complex that it generates a separate being, much like a living independent eggregore (a living, thinking thought form) contained in a subtle body of living essence. This is a part of you, and your higher self is also a part of you. The higher self / subconscious mind contains all your memories and thoughts, and is for all intents and purposes the real you, the bigger you, the immortal you, the higher spiritual you.

To attempt to put the death process in a proverbial nutshell, when you die all your aspects stay together for a time, held together by the living essence body, the eggregore body, which is something like ectoplasm. But this loses substance quickly and after a time, anything from a couple of days to a few weeks, this weakens to the point where the internal aspects are released.

Where these aspects eventually go after death is completely open to conjecture, as this process is so far removed from normal human life that the concepts here are difficult to grasp, let alone understand.

The separation/division phase after death is a crucial time, as what happens next is very important. If the whole being that is you has, during life, achieved full integration and balance, a kind of immortal super being is created. This being transcends the need for physical incarnation and begins a new life in a high level of the spirit world. This event heralds the beginning of a new life evolutionary direction, the way of the masters.

However, if integration and balance have not been achieved during life, a profound division occurs.

The higher self or Spirit (a divine and immortal aspect of you) returns to its natural divine level.

The subconscious aspect of your mortal self can be called 'Soul'. This fades into a spiritual environment most suited to its condition. And where this aspect goes is strongly affected by one's beliefs. This can be a heavenly area, or a created area where it can resolve any problems that it has accumulated during life.

After a timeless period which cannot be measured (this could be months or many centuries) when every last drop of life experience has been understood and resolved and balanced and integrated, when understanding has been fully realized, the Soul then lets go of its created environment and fades into mystery. This aspect will then probably reincarnate into a new life somewhere in the physical dimension. Another way of saying this is that the Soul is eventually reunited with its Spirit, and together they again reincarnate into a new life in the physical dimension.

Going back a bit to a time closer to death, the spiritual separation process leaves its eggregore aspect in the astral, like a semi living astral echo. This can continue independently for some time, depending on the strength of personality that created it. But this aspect does not have its full memories, and has no mental processing powers to speak of. This can wander as a ghost, and various things can happen, but it will usually settle into the lowest astral plane. There it will relive aspects of its life like a robot, until it eventually fades away. This astral level can be experienced during OBE, if one goes beneath ground in a cemetary. This is a shadowy world full of wandering dead people. They don't know they are dead because they have very limited memory and reasoning powers.

Another way of describing the above scenario is that, during life, traumatic psycholgical events cause parts of a living person to split away, and that these 'splinters' are the semi living shadows that exist in these shadowy realms. This is probably quite accurate as by large these 'splinters' seem to be reliving a single life event, eg, the event that created them as a spliter of their original whole.

Now, the essential process of the aftermath of death produces two completely different aspects of being: the subconscious mind, which could be called the Soul, and the higher self, which could be called the divine essence or Spirit; to borrow the terms. (These terms can be reversed or replaced with others if one pleases).

The Soul aspect contains a complete and perfect memory record of every moment of its mortal existence, but limited logic and reasoning powers.

The Spirit aspect contains the reasoning and logical powers, and the divine essence, but has no earthly memories to speak of.

So, when separated, these spiritual aspects cannot function as they did during mortal life. The spirit aspect could be very much like how I remember existing as an unborn child, eg, it knows everything but cannot use words to describe or express anything. And what memories it might have are so abstract as to be ungraspable and ineffable.

The Soul aspect may remember everything, but it has little or no reasoning power with which to use its memories to express itself and interact with its environment.

Another way of describing the above is that the Spirit and Soul aspects of a person stay together, but the memories of that person's life are forgotten. In spiritual texts this has been described as moving through a realm or valley of forgetfulness, at some point after death. And once the memories are gone, it is then free to reincarnate, etc.

The above may seem a bit confusing in some areas, but its the best I can do in a spontaneous forum post.

For some great reading on this matter, including lots of supporting evidence, try to get hold of a copy of Peter Novak's book, "The Lost Secret of Death: our divided Souls and the afterlife". (Published by Hampton Roads, 2003). Peter puts this together very well and I highly recommend his book.



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